This summer I spent a lot of time teaching workshops (both live and online) to teachers, composers and arrangers using Finale and Sibelius. One of the most common questions I receive is how to address the page layout of a piece.

Here is my short list of page layout steps for Finale 2008 and Sibelius 5.

First, I don’t typically address the page layout until the entire piece is entered. I like to use Scroll View in Finale and Panorama View in Sibelius 5 so I first focus on getting the notation and markings entered. Then, when the entire score is entered, I address the page layout. Sure, there may be times when this must be addressed ahead of time, for example, adding space between certain staves for lyrics, but I try to wait as long as possible to address the page layout whenever possible.

Finale 2008/2009 Page Layout steps – the short list:

1. Set the number of measures per line for the entire piece or a portion of the piece: Utilities > Fit Measures

2. To move a bar up or down a system: choose the Selection Tool (press Escape up to three time). Select the bar and press the up or down arrow key to move the selected bar or bars up or down a system.

3. Select the Page Layout Tool. From the Page Layout menu, choose “Space Systems Evenly.” Set the number of systems per page.

4. Use the Resize tool (looks like a percent sign) and click at the very top of the first page to change the size of the print out. Be aware that scores are reduced in size. A choral score could be 75% reduced and a band or orchestra full score 45% reduced. Setting the page percentage is important.

5. Understand how the Page Layout tool works to move individual systems. The handles on the left and right of each system control the space above or below that system. To move just one system, click anywhere inside the system box except on the handles.

After the short list, you can dive into the Page Layout tool and adjust margins, and just about every aspect of a score.

Do watch the series of videos on Page Layout. In Finale, from the Help Menu, choose Help > QuickStart Videos. From the main menu of videos, click on Wrapping Up Your Project and then the Page Layout options. There are several videos addressing page layout.

Sibelius 5 Page Layout Steps – the short list:

1. Open House Style > Engraving Rules and click on the Staves tab. Set the distance between staves and systems for the entire piece. I also change the justify amount to 95% for most scores. Do this before dragging staves manually. If a staff is manually adjusted, the Engraving Rules settings are ignored.

2. Set the number of bars per line using Plug-ins > Other > Make Layout Uniform.

3. Move bars down to the next system be selecting the barline and pressing the return/enter key.

4. Make custom systems by selecting a group of bars on different systems and choosing Layout > Format > Make
into a System.

5. Open the Document Setup window (Layout > Document Setup) and adjust the staff size. Scores will often need the staff size reduced to fit the staves and bars per line.

6. After making these changes, drag systems to make more room or to indent system: triple-click inside any bar of a system to select it for the entire piece. Drag the staff with the mouse.

I recommend watching the Sibelius tutorial video for Sib. 5 # 10: Layout and House Style. The tutorial videos are available from the help menu.

Remember, once you start dragging staves in Sibelius, it overrides the settings in the Engraving Rules window. You can deselect the manual changes by selecting the staff and choosing.

Page Layout can be one of the most difficult tasks to master in notation software. What tips for Finale or Sibelius have you found helpful?

    Great tips, Tom!

    In Finale, something I noticed for the first time embarrassingly recently is that since at least 2007, you could also resize the notation via the Page Layout menu (Page Layout > Resize Page), rather than the Resize (%) tool, which is the habit that so many of us old timers have deeply worn into our fingers. I think that the menu is a click or two fewer, and maybe a more intuitive way to approach the problem. Then use the Resize tool for more options, like reducing individual staffs or systems, etc. Functionally, it’s the same thing.

    Best,

    Jonathan

    Jonathan:

    Thanks for the tip! Yes, that is a handy way to change the page size. It also makes it less likely that you are going to use the Resize Tool and inadvertently resize a staff or even a note.

    Tom

    Hi Tom. I took your Finale course at Villanova a couple of summers ago. I recently was added to Dr. Pisano’s 100 ME Bloggers list and I am writing reviews of ME blogs. I included you in my inaugural edition. Check it out:

    http://www.thomasjwestmusic.com/blog.htm?blogentryid=3933949

    When arranging page layout for ensemble pupils, I like to put in as many rehearsal marks as possible - often every four bars. I avoid the default setting of rehearsal letters in favour of numbers because the rhyming nature of B, C, D, E, G, P, T, & V can lead to confusion in a noisy acoustic. I always reinforce by placing a double barline before each letter.

    Where possible, I like to align rehearsal marks down the left of the page, which makes it easier for pupils who have become lost to re-enter the piece.

    I always indent the Coda and - although not kosher as far as rudiments go - I like to indent the Segno to help pupils find it in a hurry. I would also separate individual tunes in a medley in the same way (divide system).

    cool

    How does one put in rehearsal numbers/markings?

    Also, how does one change key signature in the middle of a song?

    Tom West:

    Wow, small world. Thanks for including me in your blog. Keep in touch.

    Tom

    Thanks, Alan. These are excellent tips!

    Tom

    Skeye:

    I’m not sure if you are using Finale or Sibelius, but the answers to your questions are in the online help that ships with the software. Go to the Help menu and click on the Reference Guide or reference manual and then search for the questions, above. Also, both Finale and Sibelius have online tech support for registered users. For Sibelius, go to www.sibelius.com and click on the Help Center link. For Finale, go to www.finalemusic.com and then click on the support link.

    Good luck.

    Tom

    Hi Tom!, Is there any way to change a staff from say a voice part, from 5 to 3 lines (without the “change instrument trick”)?? I mean, I remember it was just there to change in the properties window of Sibelius 3… Thanks!

    Jomi:

    In Sibelius 3 and 4 there was a Staff tab in the Properties Windows. They removed it in Sib. 5. So, yo change the number of lines in a staff in Sib. 5:

    1. Select any bar in the desired staff
    2. Choose House Style > Edit Instruments
    3. Click Edit Instrument in the bottom right of the window.
    4. Click on the Edit Staff Types button.
    5. Edit the number of staff lines in this window.

    I hope this helps.

    Tom

    Hi, I have a problem when I try to apply lay out to my score.
    How can I give a certain numbers of bar per page with out making a mess in the notes, ties, etc…

    Thanks :D

    Tom:

    Which program - Finale or Sibelius? Here is a quick tip for both:

    1. Finale - first run the Fit Music option and see if that does the trick. Then, if you need fine tuning, choose the Selection Tool. Click in a bar and press the up or down arrow keys to move it up or down a line.

    2. Sibelius - try running the Plug-in > Other > Make Layout Uniform. See if you can get a setting that will address most or all of the score. Then, you can select a barline and press return/enter to move it to the next line. To make custom layout in Sib., select the bars (using shift and shift-click) and then choose Layout > Make into a System.

    Let me know if this helps.

    Tom

    I need to set the number of measures per line, but I cannot find any “Fit Music” option, “Utilities” button, or “Page Layout Tool” anywhere in Finale 2008/2009!

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